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What Makes Someone A Bully?

By: enna30
Written on July 30th, 2012
By: enna30
Age: 56-60 , Female
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  • richardkiss

    Enna,



    What pure 22 carrot gold words of wisdom! Genius has been described as the ability to convey information to others which they already knew to be true but were unable to previously articulate. Everything you write about bullying I can recognize as being resoundingly self evident because it just makes so much sense when described in such simple logical terms.



    I have read, admired and thoroughly endorsed your numerous confrontations with several bullies over the years. I think that anyone reading your posts would have clearly seen, as I have done, that you clinically exposed the weaknesses in their arguments as you cleanly, efficiently with surgical precision cut their legs from under them and knocked them down to size.



    Enna your considerable intellectual ability and personal bravery is such a valuable asset to us on EP to readdress the balance of good over evil. SadIy I think that the chances of an older bully reforming is about as likely as a low libido partner emerging as a sexual Olympian! Happily we have, on EP, our very own, inimitable bully slayer who is always ready,willing and eminently able to expose them exactly for what they are!



    Richard

    Sep 1, 2012
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    • enna30

      Thank you Richard! Your support and friendship are very valuable to me.

      Sep 2, 2012
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  • Petrushka

    As a teenager I was most impressed by Isaac Asimov's bon mot: "violence is the last refuge of the incompetent". It has been one of the guiding lights of my life.

    Bullies, however unpleasant, even dangerous, they may be, fall under this principle: they are incompetent when it comes to dealing with other people in an appropriate manner. They're lacking the toolset, and so they lash out and try to use violence to forcibly get what they can't get any other way. It may be attention, it may be nominal acceptance, it may be power or even just somebody else's lunch money.

    This does not excuse what they do. It does not endear them to us. It does not make them more amenable to reason, because they often lack the intellectual capacity to deal with reason. Bullies are not nice, lovable people.



    Occasionally one may have the opportunity to give a bully that toolset, but it's definitely not something that offers itself frequently. I've known some people who had that knack, but I am certainly not one of them.

    Sep 1, 2012
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    • enna30

      Agreed! As with any personal change, the bully has to want to change before he/she can begin to acquire that toolset. Sadly, most bullies lack the personal insight to recognise how much better their OWN lives would be if they did not resort to bullying.

      Sep 1, 2012
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  • enna30

    Thank you to those of you who have responded. There are some excellent points in your responses and I appreciate you sharing these. I especially like the comment by Nitehowl that Bully is short for "bullshit"!! lol



    Bullying of all types has become endemic in our world. It is the most cowardly and despicable of behaviours and deserves NO place in our society - either in real life or on line.



    Every person who takes a stand against bullying is helping to make the world a better place IMO. As an old hippy, I recall the saying once used in relation to nuclear weapons: "Let there be peace in the world, and let it begin with me." I think this applies equally in the bullying arena.

    Aug 31, 2012
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  • DeeLisa

    The Bullies on EP do ruin it. They take away from the experience. My experience has been more indirect. Never actually addressing me specifically but making in well know they are talking about or attempting to taunt me. As you mention above, my initial response was to ignore it. And you're right it just got worse. Lol. Oh well, I still choose to ignore it for now because most of us are truly too old for that kind of thing.



    A few of my friends have been bullied as well. It's just so sad to me. Also the whole "anonymous" this is so pathetic! I find myself thinking, "People, this is the internet. Get a grip and a life!" Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this....maybe not.



    Before coming to EP I was truly naive about this topic. The idea of Bullies on the internet never really crossed my mind. Not adult ones anyway. The experience has been tainted but EP It's still full of good people. Here to share stories, make, keep and support friends.



    Thanks for taking the time to write this Enna. As always your words speak truth and I've learned a lot reading them.

    Aug 2, 2012
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  • dartist

    Having experienced this behavior firsthand here on EP, I was taken aback as I had no idea that everything I wrote was being mulled over and a subject of ridicule by certain lurkers with an agenda. All of my truths were called lies. Easier then thinking about my writings and giving anything validation. To admit a truth exposes them to facing more truths here and in their own lives.



    Bullies hide with blank profiles and silence until certain buttons are pushed and then they expose themselves however they then present themselves as clueless to the truth. Respect is a foreign concept.



    To know that I have poured my heart out here on a site where I felt safe and anonymous to members whose main goal was to hurt me was eyeopening. I had to take some time to work this through in my head. The end result, after much thought, is this. I live by my truths. My bullies change user names on a regular basis so flagging them here serves no purpose. It is what they hide behind. I hide behind nothing or what I have written.



    When any bully has enough guts to out themselves, and few have this courage, then they have to face truths however distasteful. Bullies live lives of fear. Fear of the truth. Bullies are not only the young in years but also those of older years who remain cloaked in their self righteous attitudes. Some bullies are easier to pity than others. Perhaps the young who haven't lived enough of life to grasp certain concepts? It is the older bullies who purposefully get pleasure from inflicting hurt and harm on others that are found most wanting in basic humanity. Calling them on behaviors is fruitless as they are so good at hiding from the truth.



    I choose to continue to write on EP after these attacks by bullies because I will not hide from the truth! I do not force anyone to read what I write. Telling me that I am forcing people to wade through what I write gives me a huge amount of power in their lives. Not what I am or have ever been about. This has never been a power trip for me. Simply my life as I have lived and still live it. For any bully to take some pleasure from my pain says a lot about who they are as human beings but nothing about me. Peace,D

    Aug 2, 2012
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    • Nitehowl

      Well said and thought through to a conclusion of a working model. Most of the time when the "Bully" tries to step in and I figure out what they are up to I just laugh at them. There is no defense for laughter. No bully can stand being laughed at for anytime at all. After all what is bully short for? Bullshit? I think so. Therefore because it is just that then it becomes humorous. Transparent to the core and then it is funny and a good laugh is called for. Guess who never comes back?

      Aug 2, 2012
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  • selinamb

    "In an online community, those that withdraw are the ones who never post again. They retire hurt because the Bully has attacked their sense of self."

    This is so true. I shudder to think of the amount of people who have been shut out on their quests for enlightenment by the cyber bully.



    "Unable to deal with the fact that their opinions (behaviours, etc) are not receiving universal acclaim, they redouble their bullying efforts. Abuse escalates and personal attacks become increasingly vitriolic. When the Bully is "called" on his/her bullying, their outrage knows no limits. "

    I have experienced this myself (as you know!) Even when I would rebuke, ignore, or acknowledge the attacks the bully would just intensify everything. I even flagged and reported a specific member several times but I'm not sure anything came of it.



    "Paradoxically, they often "call" their targets on issues such as honesty and principles."

    YES. I was attacked for my transparency and honesty and called a liar for it. Ha!



    I've actually never been bullied in real life, I often stood up to many a bully in defense of friends or even strangers. It may be easy to just ignore them on places like YouTube but on here where people are trying to grow they need to be FLAGGED.

    Jul 31, 2012
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  • EPArsineh

    Thank you for sharing this with us. I agree with you in that the same personality types you gind in the world, both the good and the bad, make their way online. That said, staff wants to work with the community to keep bullies and those who want to abuse the supportive environment of EP, out. As you suggested, it's important for members not to retaliate with attacks, when they encounter a bully. Instead, yhey should block the individual and report them to staff via flagging. We do our best to review all flags within 24an hours.

    Jul 30, 2012
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  • Chai07

    BTW for anyone who encounters a RL bully, there's an excellent book called "Take the bully by the horns".

    Jul 30, 2012
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