The Age Question

  I just got through reading some of the things in this group with some people saying in responses that people under X age shouldn't be using this site that this is a site for mature people etc. I have a problem in limiting the age, and think their is a way to limit most of the young'ns, but it will also hurt some adults.

 One thing that could help is to put limits as to groups and other things for those of us who aren't Paying Supporters. Limt us to being able to join say 5 groups, no ability to post confessions, have only say 5 people in there circle, go into the +18 groups, and some other stuff. I wouldn't limit them to the number of groups that they could view, but I think that it would deter many of those who abuse.

 Now I wouldn't set the "full access" level high, but say at a minimum of $20 per year. This helps to bring money into EP so that advertising doesn't appear on it's pages. I will admit that I haven't been a financial supporter, but I am planning on becoming one. With those under 18, the restriction wouldn't be as tight with the number of groups, etc. as they shouldn't be able to get into the Adult groups anyway. 

 I would really hate to see this site not permit youth to come here, as I think that it is a great resource for them to be able to come and find out about things that they have interest in, and I really believe that most youth who come here are actually great kids who have been helped in some way. Some of these youth could be in homes where one or both parents are alocholics, and by coming here they could connect with others so that they don't feel alone. There are other groups here that they benefit from. I have done and do volunteer work with youth, and some of them will ask and/or talk with me about things effecting them, and sometime I will tell them to come to this to read stories that people here have written.

 Also with the supporter thing, it could help in cutting down on some of the harassment that goes on, especailly in the +18 groups. I think that once a few people get booted for it, it will get others to think about what they say and how they treat others.

  This is just an idea that I think will help in keeping this great site available, fun, and useful for all. 

RedDwarf RedDwarf
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11 Responses Mar 25, 2009

someone else with a brain- good

RedDwarf,<br />
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Being a mom of a preteen (who thinks she is 20 lol) I for one have a vested interest on how to protect the minors. After initially reading your post it inspired me to write one of the EP Admin. and ask a question about a sites ability to truly be able to regulate use by minors. This question was not only for this site but the internet in general. The one unavoidable hurdle in doing this to me was that a 13 year old is more than able to do the math to make themselves 18+ and that is pretty much how I stated it. The answer I got was quite thorough and affirmed my suspicion, there is no way possible to keep minors from simply imputing false information without requiring information that would both be invasive on the users privacy and as she stated they wouldn't want the responsibility of having in their possession (ie birth certificate, social security number etc.) and there would still be the possibility of minors getting through. And not to mention that in my experience with teens (my teenage self included :) ) if they desire to do this they will find a way, and the more restrictions you apply therefore making it seem that somehow there is some magical taboo info. on the other side, they will try that much harder to get that information and be that much more inclined to falsify their information. There is only so much a site can do to ensure the safety of minors no matter how hard they try. The rest therein lies on the shoulders of the parents and there ability to monitor their kids usage. And of course the same applies to that. No Matter how hard or vigilantly you as a parent try to monitor and filter your child's exposure you can never 100% effectively and efficiently do this 100% of the time. My daughters activity at home is closely monitored but her use at her grandmothers, friends or even school or friends cellphones are out of my hands. I, amongst hordes of other parents, would be thrilled if someone could devise a fail-safe plan that would prevent this. And I know EP would implement it with open arms. <br />
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Now as far as cutting off the site to minors (once again a minor can easily get past the age restriction lol) I think that would be horrible. This site if used properly could very well save a youth from feeling the way I did growing up, if I would have been able to talk freely to someone about what was going on in my head and in my home it might have changed my life! So no I don't think ending their use is a good solution. When finding a good solution to this problem where would you start? If I have some sort of epiphany I will be sure to share but I honestly think that the best they can do as far as minors is make sure all the safeguards and warnings are properly in place. Sorry for the lengthy post :(

ok what exactly is the point of the who's online thing when we can already click the oneline now thing to see which circle members are online???<br />
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what exactly do you need a preview feture for your stories blogs and messages for when they already come with spell check <br />
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while i'm asking questions why is my circle activity clogged with so and so added such and such user to their circle or person X and person Y are now freinds (who really wanted or needed to know that????) <br />
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and why does EP feel the need to mess with a page layout that was never borken ????<br />
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It seems like ep needs a proiority to do list and so i'll give you one<br />
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1. GET SOME SPELL CHECK FOR COMMENTS GROUP CREATION AND GROUP DESCRIPTION and i mean as fast as you can possibly make it happen <br />
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2. either a. gather all the mood sugestions and add them or b. make it to where you can write in your own like the what are you doing section <br />
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3. LOSE this thums up thums down rating system for commets the idea that you think people can police themselves in this matter is just silly if you don't reaalize by now that EP is just a giant electronic sandbox filled with kindergarteners then i can't help you <br />
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4. figure out a way for people to rate the mature content in their profile rather like you rate movies or video games so they can still have minors in their circle and give all important advice needed for the younger generation without having to cencor themsels or not have minors in their circle at all <br />
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oh and ep something i forgot you should be able to save a draft of a story as many times as you want until you are ready to post as some authors are profectionists some write short stories here even chapters of fiction <br />
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others like myself tend to see a group they would like to write a story in create a title and a few lines and save it for later as not to have joined 20,580 groups and have a profle that is hard to get a sense of or view all of your freinds experiences so writing a story becomes just easier <br />
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others may want to write on a topic but do not want that topic in their experiences as they don't want to become that experience<br />
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And that reminds me if ep wants something to do how bout a way to track blog and picture comments <br />
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how bout a way of alerting people to new story comments whiteboard coments and gestures as they move around the site not just on their profile page <br />
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and a site tutorial for new or just confused users<br />
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you asked about the harrasment <br />
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what needs to happen is someone needs to look at what is flagged and determine whether it should have been flagged at all <br />
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they start seeing a pattern of the same person(s) flagging for harassment pourposes one persons stuff they get a warning <br />
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and EP HIRE THE STAFF YOU NEED to investgate flagging and reporting delete these empty profles with no freinds no experieces known for housing perverts and harassers <br />
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and why oh why isn't most of this stuff already in place???????????????? <br />
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why becaue ep is too freaking concerned with the white space no one cared about <br />
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they put add pets to your profile and whose online and this ridicouls chat room and all that instead of BASIC things needed here <br />
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they put this thums up thums down crap here for people to abuse the hell out of <br />
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and on and on and on

I have told them before that I would be happy to put my talents to use as a way to support, and the offer still stands. I love this site, and while I can't show my support with money, There are certianly other ways.

Tulick, what I wrote was JUST AND IDEA. How you responded gives the impression that this site isn't worth offering anything for it. It's as though you just want to take, take, take and not give anything back. What I put forth were IDEAS. What IDEAS do you have that will help take this site to the next level? What ideas do you have to put an end to the harassment that goes on here? What ideas do you have to keep youngsters from logging on, saying that they are over 18 and going into the Adult areas? What ideas do you have from stopping people from bashing others when they confess something? What ideas do you have so others don't say "but it seems EP is run by 9 year olds that can't do basic things so who knows"? EP has a lot to offer, but I think that in order for it to become even better than it is, it will take the users to put forth ideas in order to put an end to some of the problems here. If you have ideas to how to make this place better, bring them forth, and I am sure that if enough people agree with you then they will implement those ideas. At least EP will willing to listen to our ideas, and not just change many things without our input like what happens on many other sites. It could be that EP will make people into Supporters who don't send money because they are supporting EP though bringing forth ideas and helping to keep this a great place for ALL people.

I haven't had a job for a while now, and I'm about to run out of my unemployment payments. EP is my free therapy. I understand you saying that if everyone payed they'd be less likely to cause problems, but please don't suggest they should take tis away from people who don't have money. EP means a lot to me, and money is difficult to come by sometimes.

thank god someone with a brain

EP's policy is that we will never charge for something that was once free. We are very concerned about protecting the minors that use the site, and are at or above industry standards when it comes to shielding under age users.

i LOVE this site but no i don't have $20 to use it and why should i pay for something that is now free for what???

So what you are saying is that you don't like this site and it's not worth $20 for you to use it....

those of us who aren't Paying Supporters. Limt us to being able to join say 5 groups, no ability to post confessions, have only say 5 people in there circle, go into the +18 groups, and some other stuff. I wouldn't limit them to the number of groups that they could view, but I think that it would deter many of those who abuse<br />
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WTF and HELL NO <br />
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Now I wouldn't set the "full access" level high, but say at a minimum of $20 per year. <br />
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who do you think hs $20 to blow on a website??? <br />
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HELL NO <br />
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people just need to shut up about the age sh-t here or leave if they don't like the twwens or those same a** hats could try helping them instead of trying to run them off or get lost themselves <br />
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EP needs to just ban the TRUE harrassers and tell the others to grow up and stop wrongly pointing fingers at someome who attacked the spesific story content not the authoer personsally unless they want to be banned themseelves <br />
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perhaps delete the confession section complily <br />
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and have an actual human being look at the things being flagged if they are not inappoate leave them be if they are take them down <br />
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but it seems EP is run by 9 year olds that can't do basic things so who knows