Snape Fan

I liked snape from the beginning, even when he was mean. there's something sad about someone who is so immature, they'd pick on a little kid. I also never believed for a minute that he was a villian, though killing Dumbledore really shocked me (denial--I liked Dumbledore). Severus Snape uses a lot of double talk--it could mean one thing or another. He says a lot by actually saying very little, and I love that. There's always a reason he says even the tiniest thing--no lines given in vain. Kule.
sunflower101 sunflower101
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23 Responses Jul 28, 2010

he was happy to be treated humainly

Harry's abuse was bad, but it wasn't as severe as the real life cases I'm talking about. And no, those people have not fully recovered from what they went through, nor would I expect them to. Harry Potter's world is something we all wish for at school. I'd like to be treated as if I were special or talented--of course! He had an easier way to express himself.

about time someone understood

I agree with that. ; )

So there was one thing hermione wasn't 100 % great at remember she only got an exceeds expectations on her OWL and harry was always brilliaant at defence plus lupin taught him she wasn't given the opportunity to "produce the petronus charm" until year 5 in the DA <br />
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Everyone is shocked harry can do it even the ministry of magic hearing the under age use of majic case in the first part of order of the pheoinex <br />
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I think what your decribing with personalities is a matter of severitiy of abuse harry's was bad but i have heard real stories of worse

How does an obsession protect anyone from fear? For instance, as obsessed with school as Hermione is, she can't produce the Patronus charm until she falls in love with gangly and insensitive Ron. If Snape really loved, how could he show it? I think the story indicates that Snape did love Lily and Harry was genuine within the context of its own rules. <br />
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In the real world, the story wouldn't have ended so happily. I've known real kids who were abused, and their lives turned for the better at age 11 (they were loved and accepted), but it was too late to change their personality. These kids are grown and they're still having trouble getting along. They get stressed out. I think it's because they've been stressed before and have a lower stress tolerance, but that's just my theory.

his patronus was what it was because of Lily and his lov/obesiion with her it does not mean he admired gentalness or that he loved anyone <br />
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the reason harry as a character worked is because he is taken out of the world of adults screaming in his face out of being an outcast into a world that accepted him he met his freinds on the hogwarts express and in spite of everything has a better expirence at hogwarts than he had ever known <br />
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he respected teachers/ authority that respected him imagine that what a novel concept he has a poor attitude tward snape because snape treats him like his uncle vernon does not to mention being able to sense his evil <br />
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to harry Dumbledore represented the father he never had to say nothing of Dumbledore was one of those people who exuded calmness and trustworthyness many trusted him not just harry and they were right to

He was a murderer and his patronus (protector) was a doe? Come on . . . Why would he admire gentleness if he's got a "survival of the fittest" mentality? He changed because he thinks he fell in love? Real murderers that are regretful still don't love people. At least, that was my impression. <br />
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Harry's character was also unrealistic. You think that an abused kid would have social problems at school, but Harry does not. He also has a good attitude toward teachers (authority), and this strikes me as uncharacteristic from a kid accustomed to adults screaming in his face. He also trusts Dumbledore completely, and why was beyond me.

how was snape unrealisitc ??

Sorry, you seemed astonishingly adamant about your position. Sure, we can discuss if you like. <br />
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I believe the character was fun, interesting, and unrealistic.

ok are you going to have a sirious dicussion about the character or are you going to play this game?

(runs quickly) ; )

huh?

Oh, sorry. (avoiding you)

i never said that snape should love harry <br />
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i said IF SNAPE LOVED LILY he would not treat her son that way <br />
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HARRY IS NOT SPOILED AT SCHOOL they are lucky to have him they see him for what he is not what snape THINKS he is

Everything you said was true; thanks for the comment! It's appreciated. <br />
Snape calls emotional people who wear their hearts on their sleeves "weak people," which is just how Voldemort thinks of them. From my perspective, Snape is an ironic character; by his own definition, he IS a weak person. I luv irony!<br />
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Snape was embarrassed to have lost it in front of Lupin, so he had Lupin fired so that he didn't have to face him again. Snape was too tempted to hurt Sirius while he could get away with it; I don't think Snape really believed he was better than Sirius. <br />
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I would think that Snape's remorse doesn't keep him from being spiteful, mean, insecure, selfish, self-centered, know-it-all, out-of-control, and perfectionistic. He enjoyed having emotional control over helpless people, scaring them about what he might do. I think that, if I were remorseful about my past, I might still have bad characteristics. <br />
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I don't understand how Snape Could love Harry. Snape didn't Know Harry until he was 16. Harry was just a vague "future dark lord" to him at first, just a kid, then just a spoiled school boy. Snape only heard glowing praise from other teachers, and saw him in classes & detentions. By the time Snape learns about Harry's Real life, he cannot talk to him for fear Voldemort will read Harry's mind, find out that he is a spy, and kill him.

he did answer her questions and he had a point that being lap dog to dumbledore provided better info than a life in Azkaban and he never misses a chance to dig at someone <br />
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"Even before that, like in The Prisoner of Azkaban, Snape got really emotional in front of Dumbledore when he thought he caught Sirius Black. If he was on Voldemort's side all along, he would have embraced Sirius like a long-lost bro."<br />
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Why siris and snape hated each other because of their school days and siris was NEVER working for voldermort never took the mark <br />
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"Snape really wanted Sirius dead for personal reasons, but like Lupin said, a schoolboy grudge is not enough to want to kill someone."<br />
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we don't know what would have happened had Snape not been knocked out in POA <br />
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"Manipulators believe the best of people, too, despite their severe ones. Can you guess why? ; )"<br />
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that sentence doesn't even make sense <br />
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but snape is not a good person you can't even count him as a good anti hero or even say he is not a death eater because in his heart he is <br />
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his ONLY problem with voldermort is that he killed lily that he went after lily's child he didn't care that he was likly dooming an inocent child to death when he was listeing at door ways and reported to voldermort, <br />
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Then he arrogantly needles at EVERYONE in the order like his **** don't stink because he has "returned to the light" forget he is the only one of them baring the dark mark, the only one who hasn't lost something for their belifs <br />
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Even with the shocking things we learn about dumbledore in DH the one thing you can say of him is he did the right thing in the end defreating grinwald and he learns from his mistakes and feels remorese for them <br />
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Snape feels not such thing i'm not even sure that you can call what he felt for lily love more like obsession he has no such remorse for his mistakes <br />
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if he felt that remorse he would not have done what he did with his second chance not tormenting children with his behavior forget harry try nevil and who knows how many others he practically gave a nervuios break down due to his teaching methods <br />
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he wouldn't have outed lupin forcing him to resign having first hand knowledge of poverty in his youth <br />
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he would not have been so eager to turn siris over to the dementors knowing how close he himself came to Azkaban and that fate himself <br />
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He would have told dumbledore NO told him, helped him find another way thats what you do when someone who has no reason to puts his faith in you <br />
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if he loved lily he would not have treated her son in such a way to have her rolling over in her grave he would not have had such a poor opinion of someone hell bent on saving the world not for his own glory but because it was the right thing to do

In the book, you could acutally, figure out that he was not on Voldemort's side. Bella's argument in The Half Blood Prince was a really good one; Snape just distracted her mind by pointing out an insecurity in her, that she was no longer the Dark Lord's favorite, in spite of her lengthy sacrifice (a life in Azkaban). If Snape was really bad, he would have just answered her questions. <br />
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Even before that, like in The Prisoner of Azkaban, Snape got really emotional in front of Dumbledore when he thought he caught Sirius Black. If he was on Voldemort's side all along, he would have embraced Sirius like a long-lost bro. Dumbledore's eyes were twinkling; if he was unsure if Snape was really on his side, he knew now he was. Snape really wanted Sirius dead for personal reasons, but like Lupin said, a schoolboy grudge is not enough to want to kill someone.<br />
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Snape's character was really clever because what you believe about people you don't know depends on your personal level of trust, not what the other person did. Those with trust issues suspect the worst of people, and people who don't have trust issues believe the best. Of course, sharp people with a good sense of logic and deduction can believe the best of people, too, in spite of their trust issues. Manipulators believe the best of people, too, despite their severe ones. Can you guess why? ; )

his ambiguity, his mystery the whole concept of you can't figure out what side he's really on

wat makes him the worst villian there is?

because you can't see that snape is evil the worst kind of evil

why do u say that?

this is whats wrong with the world no one knows veiled evil when they see it