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I Want World Peace

A Logical Means to Achieve World Peace

By: zeligocity
Written on August 19th, 2008
Age: 22-25 , Male
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  • overman

    I've been interested in the concept of a global economy providing extra incentives for a peaceful world since I came across it in, The World is Flat. It makes a lot of sense. I agree with what your saying, although all the points about absolutist certainly apply. I'm not sure how beneficial the idea is though, since as they say, the devil is in the details. Precisely how to balance between complete capitalism and socialism is the kind of back and forth that is bound to cause unhappiness in someone now matter how you set it.



    In fact, the whole thing reminds me of a book I just read called, Stumbling Over Happiness by Daniel Gilbert. It explains why we as a species are so notoriously bad at predicting what will make us happy in the first place.

    Nov 20, 2008
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  • ElLagarto

    You have conveniently sidestepped religion and national identity, which are responsible for just as much death as private property. Violence is inherent in human beings, it is our job to evolve above it. Over the past 8,000 years we have made little progress.

    Aug 25, 2008
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  • celerystalk3000

    hmmm... a man of the people, yet head and shoulders above!

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • zeligocity

    "But I'm a civilian. I'm more of a civilian than most civilians."

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • celerystalk3000

    You know what? I am sooo not in your league!!! I guess that leaves me the snails!!!

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • zeligocity

    It's a quote from Spartacus! Crassus explains the difference between what you believe and what you prefer...he uses the examples of liking the taste of and eating oysters and snails.

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • celerystalk3000

    That's random, Z! As much as I would like to, my dull mind just cannot keep up with your intimidatingly brilliant one. Care to bring me up to speed here?



    No to the oysters!

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • zeligocity

    I didn't till you told me.



    Do you eat oysters?

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • celerystalk3000

    How did you know I have a good (kinda great, actually!) body?!!!

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • zeligocity

    A good body with a dull brain's as cheap as life itself

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • celerystalk3000

    Frankly, I couldn't get through Atlas! Just yankin your chain!



    We are ALL Spartacus!



    Crucify one, crucify all...

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • zeligocity

    Hahaha! I'm just overconfident at times, is all ;)



    (oh, and by the way, I am SO Spartacus)

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • celerystalk3000

    Do you ALWAYS have to be the smartest guy in the room? :)

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • zeligocity

    Reading Atlas Shrugged is a supposedly enlightening thing I'll never try to do again.



    Ayn Rand's too overtly propagandistic for my tastes.



    I'll take Vonnegut or Pynchon over her any day.

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • celerystalk3000

    You're so frickin' deep! I AM JOHN GAULT!



    No, wait... I AM SPARTUCUS!!

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • orchid6

    I am John Gault.

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • celerystalk3000

    Atlas Shrugged!!! Yeah, that's the book you need to read! Then you can answer the question, "Who is John Gault?"!!!

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • orchid6

    I don't think zakit has read Atlas Shrugged.

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • celerystalk3000

    Yeah, socialism is like being assigned a group project. One person busts their ***, while the others slack off. Everyone gets an A. The *** busters get pissed cuz they did all the work, and the slackers don't give a **** cuz they got their A. *** busters become resentful, and eventually become slackers too. Soon NOBODY'S doing anything, but they're all still expecting to get an A.



    At least that's MY reasoning!!!

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • zeligocity

    Socialism is one of those ideas that sounds practical and great on paper, while being totally and completely counterintuitive in practice.



    For example, there's a massive problem with incentives (I know, this is a classic argument against Socialism, but bear with me). Hypothetically, you and your coworker are currently payed the exact same for a specific task. Your coworker is a slacker, and does very little work, while you are forced to make up for his shortcomings by working extra. Through capitalism, you could be payed for overtime work (usually time and a half of what you're already getting paid for each extra hour you work). There's a great incentive for you to do more work to make up for your coworker, because you are rewarded more handsomely for doing so. In a socialist society, regardless of the number of hours you work, you are paid the exact same at the end of the week as your slacker coworker, and given the exact same benefits. You will never be rewarded for doing extra work, so your incentives to do so are nullified, lowering overall productivity of your workplace (think of Salaried pay versus Hourly Pay, minus benefits inherent in the full-time salary...or better yet, think about Tenure for school teachers). Unless, as seen in small towns, the work you do is readily beneficial to you (i.e. SURVIVAL), there is no need to put in extra work. This also brings to mind a problem with advancing technologies. You could be rewarded, in corporate America, for instituting a new technology that provides increased productivity (assuming no one else steals your idea). Again, in Socialistic economies, there's no need for advanced technologies, as you'll always be given the exact same paycheck at the end of the week, regardless of the amount of work you actually do. Sure, if you're a Luddite, you probably couldn't care less about streamlining the workplace, because you wouldn't see the need for a proper workplace anyway.



    Like I said, socialism can work in small societies (very, VERY small population towns), where each individual could be responsible for a specific task. But again, survival becomes the incentive. In more advanced societies, where survival is no longer difficult (All industrialized nations...which, actually, would never have happened if we were predisposed to Socialism in the first place), there is a massive influx of workers needed for menial labor, which carries no immediate reward.



    At least, that's my reasoning...

    Aug 21, 2008
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  • zeligocity

    Soldiers are different, CC; it's their JOB to kill. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the people who actively want to kill other humans.



    Haha, thanks again, Celery!



    zakit: don't mistake my meaning as "absolute." Free Trade with no limits or regulations, like absolute Laissez-Faire Capitalism, causes many, MANY problems (especially with the poor). American Capitalism, you have to understand, combines elements of Socialism and Communism for the greater good ("THE GREATER GOOD!"). Absolutists can suck monkey marbles, for all I care. Also, can you link me on the Amazon page of that book? It sounds mighty interesting.

    Aug 19, 2008
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  • celerystalk3000

    Z -- I really enjoy reading your stories, whether or not I agree with them!! You combine words in such a witty and ironic way... you could probably write about getting **** faced and puking all over yourself and I would be fascinated. (Oh wait... you did, and I was!)



    CC: in economics, what you label selfishness is called "pursuing self interest". And it holds true no matter what system people live under... we just naturally want what we perceive is best for ourselves. That's why free trade and capitalism seem to work so well... And there's one thing I can say for capitalism:

    At least I've never had to stand in line for toilet paper!!!

    Aug 19, 2008
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