What's There to Say?

I can't figure out how so many people didn't see what a freaking idiot he was from the beginning! I mean from the first time he opened his mouth, to reading about his past failures and what a non caring human being/frat boy he is!  Some people must really live with blinders on.  I don't see how people thought he was a good pious "Man of God" and that "Jesus spoke to him and told him to do things." You have got to be kidding me!  What utter BULLSHIT! Now, we have to go about our lives, trying to pick of the tiny shreds of pieces of the ruination he has wrought on our country and its people (and Iraq and who knows what else!). May he rot in his own stinking hell!  Man, I hate, no, I detest feeling this way! 

JojoWazoo JojoWazoo
46-50, F
26 Responses Feb 18, 2009

You guys are all great and I relish the challenge of setting the Bushies straight! Thanks for taking me into the fold and being there for me! I live and breathe politics!

INDEED! Ain't it great! Yaay!

We're well met, qaz. I do approve of Jojo, she reminds me of our departed friend poodledoodledoo.

Or the Tshirt on the frat boy. <br />
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What an amusing, entertaining thread. Jojo, have you met Whuttup? He is one well spoken debater and gets my back on EP. <br />
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W12, meet Jojo, one cool chick from my stomping grounds back East. We probably saw July 4th Grucci fireworks together without knowing it! And she can unravel the knit-wits (ha! pun.) Nitey-nite cats & kittens.

Anyone who thinks that a book cannot be judged by its cover has obviously never considered George W Bush.

Well, You've pretty much come to the right place! Welcome! <br />
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i never cared for bush at all!

That was so well said Whattup. And those were AFTER he took office as our President! <br />
Max, I stand by my calling GWB a Freaking Idiot and that was being nice. <br />
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Are you manic to post 2 consecutive posts, one being nice and the next insulting me again when I didn't even respond to the first one? <br />
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What did GWB do before he was Governor and President? Let's see about all of his failed business practices where someone came and lifted him up and helped him into some new venture. He gave new meaning to the term "falling upward!"<br />
Mind you, only a ******* IDIOT could **** up this many times! Opps, you brought the old soldier out in me! Oh, is that disrespectful? Well, too bad. It can't be no worse than what he has done to us, our children and our country.<br />
And to think you defend his actions! <br />
Here's a few of GWB's "Youthful indiscretions" besides his DWI at 40 years old!: <br />
1} Arbusto, an oil exploration company, lost money, but it got considerable investments (nearly $5 million) because even losing oil investments were useful as tax shelters for the rich!<br />
2} Spectrum 7 Energy Corp. bought out Arbusto in 1984 and hired Mr. Bush to run the company's oil interests in Midland, Texas. The oil business collapsed as oil prices plummeted by 1986, and Spectrum 7 Energy was near failure.<br />
3}Harken Energy acquired Mr. Bush's Spectrum 7 Energy shares, and he got Harken shares, a directorship, and a consulting arrangement in return. Harken, under Bush, brought in Saudi real estate tycoon Sheikh Abdullah Bakhsh as a board member and a major investor. Over the next few years, Harken would turn out to have links to: Saudi money, CIA-connected Filipinos, the Harvard Endowment, the emir of Bahrain, and the shadowy Bank of Credit and Commerce International.<br />
4} A 1991 internal SEC document suggested George W. Bush violated federal securities law at least 4 times in the late 1980s and early 1990s in selling Harken stock while serving as a director of Harken. This is essentially the same kind of activity that Martha Stewart was sent to prison over. Except at the time of the investigation, Mr. Bush's father was president and the case was quietly dropped. <br />
So, Max..............Don't feel humiliated that we ripped you a new one with our facts.....Just know the truth and understand that we formed our opinion of our former President with the worst approval ratings ever, based on these facts. By all means, read PNAC. It is diabolical and will make your blood run cold when you read what the Republican Neo-cons had in store for us! Have a nice life buddy.....................

Dear Max, <br />
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wow you really threw down the gauntlet there, didn't you? I mean, how on Earth am I going to find anything despicable about W? <br />
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The primary duty of the President is to defend the Constitution of the United States from enemies both foreign and domestic. If any President takes steps to undermine the constitution, then that President no longer deserves respect, he deserves to be prosecuted. <br />
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Bush has done more to destroy our Constitution than any President in history. He also outed a CIA agent for political revenge. He also cherry picked intelligence in order to trick and pressure Congress into voting to give him authorization for the illegal occupation of Iraq. His war of choice has killed over 4,000 American soldiers and over 100,000 Iraqis. He made torture an official policy of the US, thereby endangering all of our troops. He instituted warrantless wiretaps which were unconstitutional. He ignored the Geneva conventions. He flew to Washington at midnight to sign a bill to intervene in the Terry Schiavo case, and yet didn't lift a finger to address hurricane Katrina until days later. He politicized the justice department illegally. He ignored Habeus Corpus. <br />
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He did these things, and you expect me to RESPECT him? Are you out of your mind? He no longer deserves respect. He has earned every bit of contempt that 75% of America sends his way.

I'm still pondering over what Saddam Hussein and Iraq had to do with 9/11 that justified us going to war with them. Osama Bin Laden sure had something to do with it, though...and where is he? Oh, right. On the loose since it happened. Heckuva job, W!

Wow Max, I think your comments are incredibly insulting.<br />
"Dear Jojo whatever you call yourself"<br />
You didn't even begin your comments with a proper tone.<br />
Good luck.

Forget about what I said about JoJo. <br />
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JoJo, obviously you still resort to insults when you have no constructive thought! Too bad, I thought you had more heart than the rest of the insulters! I was dead wrong!

To all of you commenting on this thread, you have nothing but insults to hurl when you are at a loss for words! At least Jojo had the courage to speak their mind. What a shame. How sad that you cannot have a constructive debate without insults! Thanks again JoJo!

Don't elephants like peanuts?

Jojo,<br />
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I did not talk about dissent, I talked about disrespect. You called the President, and I quote a "freaking idiot".<br />
It is obvious that you have nothing constructive to say about George Bush. I am wondering what will happen when you don't like what Barack Obama does? Is there anyone you agree with? Also, the Army is voluntary. So if you served recently it was by your own subscription to enlist. Judging by your age, you chose to serve. BTW - When you join the military there is a strong possibility that you could wind up in combat, be injured or killed! Did you expect to go into the Army and not have to take up arms against an enemy? I expect that you knew exactly what you signed up for! Anybody older would have been in the Nam, but you are too young!<br />
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At your suggestion, I will read PNAC, but I can tell you that I will still believe that no matter who is President, or what party is in the majority, I will respect, honor and serve my country and my President, even if I disagree with his/her politics or decisions<br />
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v/r<br />
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Max

Oh, I forgot....Don't feed the Elephants! LOLOL

Oh, I forgot....Don't feed the Elephants! LOLOL

Jojo, don't try reasoning with them. They all share the same brain.

Oh, and one more thing. I knew a couple of people who perished on 9-11 too. One was my cousin. I grew up watching the Twin Towers being erected. I'm not apathetic to any of that. What I wonder is why were there not any Air Force Jets scrambled to intercept ANY of the planes that were hijacked that day? What did Iraq have to do with 9-11? N-O-T-H-I-N-G but the facts that I stated above.

Max, I'm sorry but if he was my Commander in Chief, he would still not have my respect. Ronald Reagan didn't either. Just because some guy was my Company commander didn't mean I had to like him either. I took their orders but I didn't have to respect anyone. No way, no how.<br />
I am not dishonoring my service, our flag and our country. Dissent is not unbecoming of any citizen of any country, especially in accordance to my rights in the Constitution. That seems to be your rule.<br />
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You said "George Bush did what he thought was the right."<br />
George Bush did not do what he thought was right. He did what his advisors told him to do and he let his heart get in the way when he slipped and said "After all, this is the man who tried to kill my daddy." SO, what he essentially said to me and nearly 50% of our fellow citizens is "I am the Commander in Chief, I have the whole US military at my disposal and I can get back at this guy!" Let me ask you this.... Have you ever read the Project for a New American Century? If you haven't, Google PNAC. It's quite long, but read it and read who signed it. It's the Neocon manifesto. Just read it and then come back and tell me what you think about that!!!! That, Max is not a conspiracy theory. And, it's right out there for you to see!

Jojo,<br />
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I salute you for defending your country, but hate does no one any good! <br />
Yes, you are correct, our liberties and freedoms have been eroded but it is not because of the Iraq war. We were viciously attacked and 3000+ citizens died on American soil, some of whom I knew and worked with. Things change during a war. Go back and look at the sacrifices made by our families during WWII. A lot of things were given up. <br />
George Bush did what he thought was the right just as Barack Obama is doing now! They are men with a purpose and a job that comes with more responsibility than any of us would ever want. They make tough decisions some of which we don't like. As you know, this is the US and the President is the Commander in Chief. It is your right to disagree, but it is not your right to be disrespectful! Especially if you are a soldier! You know better. The Office of the President is one to be respected and revered no matter who holds office. We must all stand together and be respectful and loyal! I noticed that you are of Italian heritage. Loyalty to family is at the top of any Italians list! I assume that you understand that completely. You have every right to voice your opinion, disagree with me or the government but do not dishonor your service, our flag, or our country or President with disrespect! It is unbecoming of any citizen of this country!<br />
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MaxV

Well Max, ole boy, let me tell YOU something. I stand by every word I said above. I served my country as a Soldier in the United States Army and I will say what I want, when I want where I want. I earned that right. Besides it's my right (and yours) to have free speech. <br />
I served to protect our country and to defend the Constitution. Then George Bush "took" office, squandered our goodwill, our fortune and sent over 4000+ soldiers and Marines to their deaths, not counting the uncounted who have been maimed and had their lives ruined in his Illegal war in Iraq because "After all, this is the man who tried to kill my Daddy" and for Oil. And don't tell me it's a volunteer Army, that's crap! Soooooooo Mr. MaxV Those were some cogent reasons, even if I am as you say "a shill for the hate mongers." At least I fought for that right. Oh, and the Constitution I swore to defend? It's in shreds too, just like our country. Our liberties and freedoms have been eroded steadily. I'm sorry you're frustrated, er I mean distressed. And, I am cool, my husband and kids think so, That's all that counts, so you don't matter!

whuttup12<br />
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Quid pro quo!<br />
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You stated that there were a lot of reasons to hate George Bush, but you didn't include one well thought out criticism! Again, look at facts and formulate your opinions. You made an emotional defense of Obama, because you made an assumption. Actually, I think Obama may be the man who can reunite us all! If the hate mongering continues, against any President of this country I will stand to their defense, especially against emotional ranting. Bring on the facts and justify your opinions, and I will gladly respond. BTW - Just because, and hate are not reasons. Enlighten us all!

"George Bush is one of them" That statement demands explanation, please elaborate. <br />
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You are entitled to your own opinion, everyone is, but you're not entitled to your own facts. There happens to be a boatload of valid reasons to hate George W Bush, and very few to admire him. Do you disagree with that statement? If so, I would be interested in seeing your list of pros and cons in regards to W. <br />
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Perhaps you ignore and dismiss W's critics because you think he's a victim of our so called "liberal media"? <br />
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Another thing I wonder is if since you came running to W's defense here I assume you also shout down all of the "Obama is evil/antichrist/socialist/no birth certificate" threads on here as well? Since you have such respect for the office of the President?

Dear Jojo Whatever you call yourself,<br />
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There are millions of reasons you can say what you want to say without fear of persecution. George Bush is one of them! Unfortunately, for you I also have a right to my opinion. <br />
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Here it goes: When you can put together some cogent comments about George Bush aside from spouting hate speech, I would like to hear them. You aren't cool, you are just a shill for the hate mongers. Remember where you are and who died for you before you **** on this country or its President, no matter who holds the office!<br />
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MaxV

Honey, I would agree with you, except it was ALWAYS cool to hate that buffoon.