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Once Was A Catholic

I was born into a catholic family. I had a uncle who was (and still is) a priest. I served as an alter boy for 10 years (no i never suffered from any abuse) I had a nice priest but he was boring almost put me to sleep a few times.

I believed that God existed (and still do) but there was always something missing in the catholic church something was just not right.

One day a friend gave me a bible and i decided to read it. Now the thing is for the most part catholics are not big on bible reading. It is not something that is encouraged because in the end the interpretation of the bible the catholic church delivers to the people outranks the Bible itself.

So anyway i read the bible over a year period starting with small bits (all i could handle) and then slowly reading more in each session. Just to make it clear i never had a stage where i did not believe God existed. So i got into praying to God for understanding when ever i went to have a reading session.

Well by the time i read the gospels i was no longer a catholic and by the time i got to Romans 7 i had come to the knowledge of the Love of the truth of God and accepted the Atonement of the Messiah Jesus for my sins. Before this i had a catholic works based salvation view of God mixed in with mary worship. But thanks to the guidance of God from reading his word directly i could see how false the catholic church was and how it was leading people away from the Love of the truth.

I became a Christian, I believe Jesus is the Word of God and all whom believe Him and trust in His Atonement are gifted eternal life with God. :)))


All Praise The Ancient Of Days
Adstars Adstars 46-50, M 12 Responses Nov 11, 2012

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Im a born again bible reading & believing catholic! The bible was written by God through the church he founded. Thats what i think and other catholics can back that up better than me so don't ask me to ok

The if you read it you should see how the catholic teachings and traditions are in rebellion against it..

Thanks for reply. Feel free to give examples :)

Praise the Lord, what a beautiful testimony, Amen. ^_^

BEAUTIFUL testimony!!!!!!!

Yes, Catholics have the Pope and Bishops making choices for them and telling them how to behave too. The Catholic church and Catholic schools do not encourage the Parishioners or Children to read the bible as they do not want them to end up drawing on a conclusion based on the true meaning of Salvation.

In Catholic Churches I think that the homily only serves as the Priests interpretation of a reading. My interpretations has been known to be the complete opposite of what I have just heard.......................

Great Story!!

I've always believed that the Word of God (Bible) is the sole authority and not man's interpretation which, most of the time, has less to do with true interpretation and more with promoting a personal or group agenda. In fact this reliance on outside "authority" clearly goes against what is written in the Word.

2 Timothy 3:16 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness"

Indeed. The Bible must be the foundation and with the Holy Spirit's guidance we are given understanding of it.

I was born a catholic and questioned my religion. Then later in life became a christian and again I question a religion. It appears to me all churches/religions are as bad as each other. To start with at the time of jesus christ very few people were scholars and even fewer had the ability to write. So your bible stories were passed down by word of mouth. Overtime just like chinese whispers it changes. Add to that the bible was written in a language such as hebrew, then translated to greek, latin, italian and a myriad of other languages, so again the words will change . So ask yourself can everything in the bible be true. I do not put you down for supporting your god. But by the same token you should not put other peoples beliefs down.
The world is a big place and there's room for others to follow what ever religion they choose. Without being told there's is wrong.
Always remember the judeo- christian churches borrowed two of their most important holidays from the pagan churches (christmas and easter).
Just be respectful of others allow them to worship who they want. No church is better than another, you all seek the same thing.You are just walking different paths to get there.

I believe what i believe. I share with others what i believe. I believe there is only One Way to Eternal life with God. In believing that i MUST reveal that all other ways are incapable of obtaining eternity with God. If people decide to disagree with that Message so be it that’s their call. If people decide to take offence at the Message i give then so be it. I will continue to share my belief. Other people can own their reaction to the Message i share.

So i will continue to state that other ways are wrong.

As for christmas and easter you are both correct and wrong. Biblical Christianity does not celebrate those pagan festivals not does it recognise them, They are the fruit of the catholic churches harlotry with paganism and another reason why catholicism is a false religion and not true to the Word of God. Thank you for brining this issue up. It just give me more opportunity to reveal how Biblical Christianity is different from the religion of catholicism.

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Christmas and Easter are not bilblical??? I swear you have not read that silly book. Christmas and Easter are the whole point of christianity. Christmas is the celebration of the fact that god became man and Easter the celebration that as man, he was put to death and rose from the dead.

The fact that the early church chose winter solstice and spring equinox to teach those fundamental principles to uneducated agrarian people only makes sense.

"Biblical Christianity" is a silly bastardization of catholicism in which its members take the book put together by caholics and each person individually re-interprets it for themselves.

Yet still the alleged biblical christisns. Celebrate these days. I know you all love the presents and easter eggs. No religion is right that allows you to discount another persons belief. After all in essence you all believe in the same thing. You just name it and celebrate it differently.

I don't celebrate Christmas or Easter. Each person must be true to their own beliefs and when called to share them they must do so. If others take offense then that is their call. And there is no assurance in believing that God exists. The Key is believing God and trusting Him.

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<p>From my interpretation of what you are saying Jesus is the only way to gain eternal life from God? So I only ask as a thought provoking question. How do we know exactly what Jesus said? Yes I absolutely believe he was of the Divine just as we all are. Yes he was more spiritually advanced than we all were so that he could spread the word that we can find him and our Creators ANYWHERE we look and LOVE.</p><p>The bible was edited by man at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD They did not have any first hand accounts in Jesus own hand. They only had second hand hearsay versions of what other people said came from Jesus. Sometimes 3rd and 4th account. Does that mean these words are untrue or their meanings any less diminished. Or does it just mean that we just don't know and the most important part of Jesus's teachings was just LOVE everyone unconditionally for inside of each person is a Divine Spark of Energy. We all are born the same way, we all feel Love and pain, we all bleed the same way.</p><p>If this is how you find that LOVE then I applaud you and encourage you to continue to do. But it is not everyone's personal truth. Don't degrade people, put them down, and them to hell (which I don't believe exists because how could our Creators who are PURE LOVE create something so evil. It just isn't possible.) because they don't LOVE your way.</p><p>You called me a whole bunch of really bad stuff in private messaging because I don't believe in Love your way. Right down to a nazi racist pig I believe. I found that to be very humorous considering you don't know me. But even with that we may not agree on how to believe, FROM ONE DIVINE SPARK TO ANOTHER YOU HAVE MY LOVE AND PRAYERS FOR A GOOD LIFE. BE POSITIVE AND LOVING AND ALL WILL BE RIGHT WITH THE WORLD.</p>

Aiyana77 said:
From my interpretation of what you are saying Jesus is the only way to gain eternal life from God? So I only ask as a thought provoking question. How do we know exactly what Jesus said?


Adstars reply:
As I said in my Post. I read the Bible and the Messages flowed and it resinated in me as truth. I came to discover that the only a faulty human being could ever have eternity with a perfect God was by having their imperfections removed and having all their sins forgiven. That rings as truth to me because I know I cannot live a perfect life to merit eternity with a perfect God. So the Message of Jesus and the Atonement of Jesus both rang as true deep within my conscience as the only way a human could ever be made acceptable to exist with God in eternity. It also showed the Loving nature of God that He would go through such suffering to redeem people. So the message of the Love of the Truth was revealed to me and I embraced it. Now I believe in God. Therefore I believe if God has a Message for mankind He also has the power to move men to record and preserve that message. Now it is up to people to decide what particular “god message” they embrace. Some embrace the Torah some the quran some the kabalah, some the hindu texts, some the book of mormon. Let each person decide what is true and what is good. People will be drawn to the message their will is in agreement with. And thus people will either be saved or condemned by what they love and what they reject.
Aiyana77 said:
Yes I absolutely believe he was of the Divine just as we all are.

Adstars reply:
Yes Jesus is God. As the prophet Isaiah revealed:
Isaiah 9
6 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

But we are Just created beings. The one who entices us to believe we are gods is satan who sabotaged Gods good creation by enticing humans to obtain the knowledge of good and evil telling them that they would be as God if they did. A lot of cults entice people these days with the same lie, eg mormonism and the New Age movement. This enticement panders to the pride of humans who cannot accept Someone superior over them, so superior that they cannot ever hope to obtain equality with them. The proud want to be their own god.

Aiyana77 said:
The bible was edited by man at the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD They did not have any first hand accounts in Jesus own hand. They only had second hand hearsay versions of what other people said came from Jesus.


Adstars reply:
The Bible as a compilation did not exist before the council of nicea. It was the council of nicea where they where already existing books where gathered assessed and then combined. They did not create any new books there. They simply compiled already existing scriptures. And it matters not a jot that the accounts of Jesus where not from the hand of Jesus himself. They where inspired by God through the hands of men. One either reads the bible and believes that or they don’t. Have you read my Story the Bible and the Number 7? Do you think that a bunch of men could organise the entire bible to come out like that?

Aiyana77 said:
Or does it just mean that we just don't know and the most important part of Jesus's teachings was just LOVE everyone unconditionally for inside of each person is a Divine Spark of Energy. We all are born the same way, we all feel Love and pain, we all bleed the same way.

Adstars reply:
There is no Divine spark or energy within man. All divinity is with God and Jesus was god manifested in the flesh and come to earth. The body of Jesus came into existence by the working of the Holy Spirit, Jesus being God never had the human faults we are born to exibit.

Aiyana77 said:
If this is how you find that LOVE then I applaud you and encourage you to continue to do. But it is not everyone's personal truth. Don't degrade people, put them down, and them to hell (which I don't believe exists because how could our Creators who are PURE LOVE create something so evil. It just isn't possible.) because they don't LOVE your way.

Adstars reply:
There is only ONE TRUTH, There is only ONE will of God for mankind. You believe everyone can have their own personal truth? That belief is a manifestation of a person who wants to be their own god and creates their own personal religion based upon their own faulty human thinking. The god that people like you will only believe in is yourself, you create a god in your own image. They treat scriptures as a smorgasbord picking and choosing from this religious book and that religious book and from that philosophy and that cult leader. And I do not degrade people. I attack thoughts that are leading those people into deception and to eternal death. That’s LOVE. Telling people what they don’t want to hear and taking abuse and denigration for it from them is an act of LOVE. Hows that from a loving “desert rat”.

Aiyana77 said:
You called me a whole bunch of really bad stuff in private messaging because I don't believe in Love your way.

Adstars reply:
I was attacking your thoughts and revealing to you your arrogance. You where upset that I stepped on your prised beliefs as I am doing here and now. But I can differentiate between a person and their beliefs. Some people cannot differentiate themselves from their beliefs. So when they have their beliefs challenged they take it as a personal attack.

Aiyana77 said:
Right down to a nazi racist pig I believe.

Adstars reply:
Yes you where the one who first called the Jews who complied the Torah as “desert rats”. Remember my words where a REACTION to your racist insult upon the Jews. The same one used by the nasi’s in their propaganda movies. Seems you and the Nazis had a similar source of inspiration.

Aiyana77 said:
I found that to be very humorous considering you don't know me.

Adstars reply:
You revealed yourself to me by calling the OT Jews rats.

Aiyana77 said:
But even with that we may not agree on how to believe, FROM ONE DIVINE SPARK TO ANOTHER YOU HAVE MY LOVE AND PRAYERS FOR A GOOD LIFE. BE POSITIVE AND LOVING AND ALL WILL BE RIGHT WITH THE WORLD.

Adstars reply:
Your not divine and I am not divine. Seek and summit to the guidance of the One who is DIVINE that being the God of Abraham.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

If you want to believe all this that is fine by me but I certainly don't buy into any of it. I am not the least bit religious but I am very spiritual. If out resonates with you thats is wonderful. But it does not resonate with me. Yes I think the council of nicaea was put together with nefarious intent to control the population. To me Loving other human beings, constantly pouring out Love and positive energy, and just being an all around good person odd what is most important.

No matter what you believe you do not have the knowledge or life experience to judge me in any way. And if you feel I revealed my entire being and personality in one sentence then well.....i try to pick people up everyday that hurting or in pain. I have talked people out of suicide, I have helped another rid themselves of horrible nightmares. This is just a small sampling of the Love I have shown other people. What have you done other than do you best to tear apart the Bright lights of this world just because they don't believe your way. In the end who would you embrace more, the living caring person who does nothing but good, our the judgmental person only interested in sowing disharmony and negative energy?

You want to love your way of thinking that s great. I hope it brings you plenty of peace. But don't cram your cultist ideas down everyone else throat. Next thing I know you are going to be offering me koolaid.

You proudly boast of your righteous works and then turn around and judge me for doing no works when you don't know a thing about me or what i have done. Talk about a false accuser. Your a proud liar and a false accuser. Get this all our righteousness are as filthy rags to God and shall not justify us in the end. You serve baphomet the Transgendered pagan god, you just don't know it yet.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Something wonderful happened to you thank GOD

Thankyou for sharing. I am glad you found real forgiveness from sin and salvation in Jesus Christ the Messiah. There is no one else we can have forgiveness of sin from - not even a Roman Catholic priest. Confessing to a priest does not save us or give us eternal life. Eternal life is found in God's only begotten Son, The Lord Jesus Christ. I am glad God showed you the hearsay and error in the Roman Catholic Church which is full of idolatry to Mary and praying to dead Saints. God have mercy on them and may all Catholics find eternal life in Jesus like you have done.

You are not very familar with the catholic religion.

I am guessing even you don't really believe saints are dead. Saints are more alive than you and I. They are in the glory of god, which I am sure one day you will be.

Hi, Actually I am familiar with the catholic religion as I know an ex- Catholic and they do have prayers to "saints" such as st. joseph, but the real saints are the born-again ones as described in the Bible.

So yes I agree with you the real saints are in the glory of God but I know catholics pray to Mary and to people they see as holy who have died who they call saints as they have told me. Also you can find catholic prayers online to these so called saints.
Thanks for taking an interest in my comment. I am open to learning more and being corrected if I'm wrong.
Blessings to you.

Thank you for your wise and kind words. :) May He guilde you always and may you follow Him into eternity.

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Would you be offended if I asked you to pray for me? What if I waited until you were in the glory of god before I asked. Catholics do pray to Mary, and hope for results much like when she asked jesus to make more wine at the wedding. Have you looked up Luke 1:28? Catholics do not worship Mary, but do believe she was born again. That she is full of grace and that the lord is with her. Can you find an online catholic prayer to Mary or any saint that asks for anything more than their prayers?

Regarding your concern for confession. First catholics believe salvation is a gift from god that no man can earn. That salvation was won for us when jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead. While we cannot earn salvation we can reject it through sin and to unburden ourselves from that sin, jesus gave us confession. (check out John 20:21 - 23) When a priest absolves people of sin, he does so with the authority given by jesus and must use these words - "I absolve you from your sins, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." The priest does not forgive sins on his own.

No i would not be offended if you asked me to pray for you. You would not be able to ask me if i was dead because i would not hear you. You are to pray to the LORD and to him only should you pray. Praying to Mary is raising a human being to the divine. And yes the catholic church does not give Mary the title of Co-redemtrix to Mary for nothing. True Christians know that ONLY JESUS is the Redeemer and needs no help from any human being to save. The cathoic church also falsely claims that Mary was born without sin because their thinking of men believe that Mary had to be pure to carry Jesus. They forget that if this was true then Mary herself had to be born by a pure sinless mother and that the line of sinlessness must go back to Eve. Unfortunately that is a denial of the fall of man and the need for salvation by the Atonement of the Messiah Jesus.

Oh you say that salvation was won by Jesus? and that it can "reject it through sin" and that you must confess your sins to a priest... You are denying the sufficiency of the power of the Atonement of the Messiah Jesus to save. Same with all the other false teachings of the catholic church, Mary Co- redemtrix and praying to the saints and doing works of the law. The catholic church adds a lot of things that one needs to perform to be saved. to maintain salvation to Pay for the Free Gift of Jesus. Talk about spitting in the face of ones Redeemer.

One more little point. Your satanic avatar is not helping you in the credibility stakes.


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Yes cowboy i have read the King James and it does reveal that Mary had Children to Joseph. But they the catholic authorities have run away into deeper and deeper deception over Mary until they have to go to foolish lengths to deny the scriptures.

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A bible reader like yourself must be familiar with Luke 1:28?

28 Gabriel appeared to her and said, “Greetings, favored woman! The Lord is with you![a]”

29 Confused and disturbed, Mary tried to think what the angel could mean.
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1:28, 29 Mary was humbled and puzzled that the angel should say she was “favored” (a correct translation of the word sometimes rendered “full of grace”). The word indicates that Mary received grace, not that she was the source of grace to others.

Thanks Christyna i missed that reply from MarkFree. You dealt with it well :D

A bible reader like yourself must be familar with James 2:14-26?

Indeed those who agree with the will of God naturaly will do good works. But one is NOT SAVED by those good works. So believing Jesus and having the Holy Spirit moves one to have a heart to love others and therefore do good works for them. But all our rightiousness are as filthy rags compared to God and it is foolishness to believe we can earn eternity in a perfect existance by Works.

Isaiah 64
6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.


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... and that is the Catholic teaching on the subject.

No the catholic teaching is wrapped up in one word Penance. That concept is about paying for your own sins by either taking punishment or by making restitution. This is not done by Jesus for a catholic this is done by the catholic for themselves. That’s why you have unbiblical concepts like purgatory is the catholic religion a place where people who don't make the cut but are not all that bad go to after death to pay for their sin (do penance) until they are good enough to be worthy to be accepted into Heaven.

That’s why Pope Urban II who ordered the first crusade said in his speech.

" Accordingly undertake this journey for the remission of your sins, with the assurance of the imperishable glory of the kingdom of heaven."

For Christians remission of sins is obtained by believing Jesus who has obtained remission for our sins. But for the (infallible?) pope of catholicism it was by joining a crusade and fighting the non-believers. And that is more in tune with islam with it's salvation through taking part in jihad.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

In a world full of people "going their own way" it is refreshing to encounter someone who embraces the truth and not some man made notions

Ephesians 2:8-9
God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it.

A Big AMEN to that Christyna. Jesus removes all boasting from men, All Praise is to Jesus, He has done it all for us.

Adstar, can you imagine hanging on that cross and not only suffering physically while hanging and being torchured but Jesus also carried all the sins of mankind in His body, as per Scripture? Itemized! The sins were personal for each individual to ever to have lived or ever to live. Jesus paid a hefty price for our Redemption. He suffered for each individual their punishment and their hell, individually. Only a deity could do that! It's so much to take in and the Glory be to the Son. Wow!

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