Glasgow Cub- Scouts 1925 inspection.
Might interest some of our Scouting Fraternity.
Saw a photograph recently.
Earl Haig was wearing his shorts and inspecting the Glasgow Cub-Scouts. Some of the Cubs were wearing their Kilts, others were wearing Shorts. Date and variety of Cub- Scout Uniform may interest some of our Group.
My Scouting for Boys. circa 1957 stated that Scottish Scouts may wear their Kilts as part of their uniform.
Interesting book for those interested in camping and expeditions. Kiltiekid 10.3.16
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Nowadays it seems like the officers are into kilts more than the boys. Perhaps it was ever thus...

I think a more likely explanation is that by comparison, nowadays less youngsters actually own kilts than there used to be, with parents preferring to hire for specific occasions rather than buying a kilt - if only they would "do the maths" they might realise that this could well be be a false economy!

The economics of buying a Kilt for a wee laddie may depend upon the family monthly buget.
I do not know the cost of a Kiddy Kilt or hire.
Perhaps the initial unavailability of a hand me down , may affect the initial usage and popularity of the garment.
A boy might not want a Kilt if his chums do not wear the Kilt. There again his parents may not consider he should regularly wear a Kilt.
When I was up in Inverness before xmas, the Kilt makers opinion was that Boys only wore Hire kilts with Bonny Prince Charlie until they had stopped growing. Perhaps it is just unfashionable to wear the Kilt for day wear, as per cubs or scouts.
Perhaps the Kilt is less popular for school wear.
If one looks at their grandsons' generation, what is their Kilt wearing popularity ? Kiltiekid.....13.3.16.

It is a bit of a vicious circle - If you have a kilt you can readily wear it, but if not the cost of hire effectively means it's only for special occasions. For myself, it works out vastly cheaper buying for the use I get out of it, but if I had to hire, I'd probably only wear a kilt a fraction of the time.
I knew a case of a dad who lent his teenage son his kilt only to find it had been ripped by the time he got it back.

Wore my last new kilt for thirty five years. Cost of usage was less than ten pence a week.
If my new Kilt , Argyll and Waist coat last the same length of time, weekly cost will be less than fifty pence a week.
Only wear problem I had was Kilt pin made a small hole in top apron at bottom end of pin.
Bit of invisibe mending required. Kiltiekid...13.3.16.

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Scottish Scouts have always been able to wear kilts as part of the uniform, with the decision whether to allow kilts or not made at individual scout group level.
Generally, when a group decided to allow kilts then everyone wore them (for when in full uniform, changing out of kilts for the activities part of the normal meeting then changing back into them again for "flagdown"). In some kilted groups all the scouts wore their own kilts, while other groups had a kilt bank to lend/hire kilts to those without. Normally this resulted in a wide range of tartans being worn - I only ever heard of one group where all wore the same tartan (Royal Stewart). The group I was with tried being all the same tartan (Black Watch) for a few years but eventually gave in to parental pressure to allow own kilts.
Again generally, Cubs wore shorts and were not normally kilted at normal meetings, but those individual cubs who owned kilts were allowed to wear them when on parades and for other special occasions (as were individual scouts in "non-kilted" groups).

Tartanpleats, I thank you for your useful information. The final paragraph of your post would explain why the photo I saw showed a section of the group of cub-scouts wearing Kilts for an inspection by Earl Haig.
I saw the photo in a book in a charity shop, so I am unable to refer back and clarify if the group were wearing the same tartan.
The other point of interest is that I have never heard of Cubs being called "cub-scouts".
Kiltiekid..12.3.16.

My group of friends may be interested to know that when King George was photographed seated with a group of onlookers at a Scouts event in Scotland in the thirties he was casually dressed wearing his Kilt and Argyll without wearing a tie.
The conclusion I would draw from this mode of attire is that he was not representing the Scouts organisation, and his staff considered he was suitably dressed for the occasion. ....Kiltiekid.....

kiltiekid - I should have worded the last paragraph slightly better, where I said that cubs (and scouts) who owned their own kilts were allowed to wear them when on parades and other special occasions. In actual fact, they were actively encouraged to do so, with the leaders exhorting them along the lines of "All those who have a kilt please wear it for this occasion". As the leaders generally knew the boys' families as well, they were usually aware of who had a kilt and who did not, and woe betide any lad who owned one but did not wear it to the special event!
I would think it extremely unlikely that the cubs in the photo you refer to were all wearing the same tartan since in all probability they were the lads' own kilts.
Cub Scouts was the full formal name, but usually only used in documentation and press reports etc, - in normal usage it was just simply abbreviated to "Cubs".

Tartanpleats, Thanks for the clarification. Never hard the name " Cub- Scouts " used before. Wondered if the Name was peculiar to Scotland.
We did not have Cubs in our area, as there were not enough young lads, and no Cub leader.... Regarding Scouts; I loved tracking through the woods.
We used to go out with one of the Game Keepers, putting out the birds, and the woodmen had their patches for hurdle making. So we knew where the tracking was likely to take us through the woods.
Camp fire singsongs out in the woods.
Moving the thread a bit, Did anyone go to a school summer camp ? Living in a field for a week ? Kiltiekid....12.3.16

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Yes, Kilts were worn as Scout uniform but for special occasions, not the rough and tumble of regular meetings, at least in my case. This included British Bulldogs which I believe has now been banned.

I do also remember wearing it for hikes.

British Bulldogs was banned many years ago, but many groups got round this by making very minor alterations to the rules and renaming the game Scottish Terriers!