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I am so tired of hearing Republicans spout crap with no basis in fact. Just one example is the oft-repeated "America has the best health care in the world!" Do they ever look into the facts. The US doesn't even rank in the top 30 in anything except amount of money spent.

Example where we're below 30th in the world--

Life expectancy

Child mortality

Maternal mortality


The only place we rank up high is the amount of money spent, and that's because it costs us 2 to 3 times as much for the same treatment as people in other industrialized nations pay. (Not to mention the fact that if you but medicine for your pet it only costs half to a third what the EXACT SAME medicine cost for a human prescription.)

We do a fantastic job of research into new procedures and new drugs, but that is all. Actual health care here lags behind the rest of the industrialized world.

ChipmunkErnie ChipmunkErnie 61-65, M 12 Responses Nov 10, 2009

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Well said!

Too tired and depressed to try and come up with salient points, but I did wonder: do all these people you know actually turn over their tax returns to you so you know what their income is? (I know, bitchy mood)<br />
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And, if they eat Twinkies or smoke, as George Carlin pointed out, they die early and save health care costs decades of care. Six months in intensive care or 20 years with Alzheimers?

I dread the next election more than you will ever know.<br />
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the filth and lies will fill the gutters, and we, the voters, will suffer.

BTW -- just wondered -- according to your statistics, do these foreign countries start counting kids at the third step they take? Fourth? If they stumble on the first, but get up again, do they count?

Also, judging from your comments, I assume you have a nice health care package and don't have to worry?

Cuba? Michael Moore? As usual, a Republican bit of crap that doesn't address the issue, since I mentioned neither and have no use for either, nor was either mentioned in any of the reports I was talking about. Just more scare tactics. The statistics I mentioned were from both World Health Organizations (I know -- anathema to conservatives because it's not an US-centric organization) and CIA documents.

Well, at least we rank high up there on guns-per-person -- I believe we're pretty much equal with the Afghans, and look what it's done for them.But taking guns away is like taking their wee-wees, so what can you expect?

I just don't get how these reactionaries have been able to convince people that it is somehow in their best interests to have lousy health care, pay a higher proportion of their income in taxes than the wealthy, kowtow to corporate interests.... but feel safe because they have guns but no gay marriage...

"ironee"?<br />
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Was actually thinking the same think just yesterday, listening to some retired Republican politician who spent most of his life suckling off the public teat declaring that people with serious medical problems and no insurance should not be given insurance -- essentially they should be left to die. Talk about "death lists"!<br />
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And that's not to even go into his ignorance about the causes of diabetes and how all diabetics are fat, junk food eating pigs with no willpower who shouldn't get coverage.

Ah, yes, Joe L... the senator from Hartford... who now wants to block any Public Health option... it's criminal!

Definitely Bob. When it comes to Health Care we tend to ignore the fact that, in the end, any reform (or lack thereof) will be decided by our Millionaire's Club, aka the US Senate, in which not a single person will ever have to worry about not having health insurance -- indeed, most of them are so rich they don't even need it.<br />
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And, as was pointed out not long ago, the most stridently anti-public option voices in Congress belong to members who receive the largest cash donations from the Insurance industry.

I totally agree with you, Ernie... the current system sucks badly... and this automatic "we're number one!" is just stupid. It is insane that we don't have better coverage with lower rates... the only ones the current system helps are the insurance executives.... NO ONE ELSE is as well served by the system as they are!