I Have Seen It

checking out some profiles where i consider that person perverted and then look at the political standing and it says conservative. I don't see how they can have conservative views being that perverted.

frosti frosti
31-35, F
36 Responses Mar 23, 2009

I find it amusing that people are perverts if they are older and/or don't have your sexual values. Does that mean I am a pervert if I'm gay and your not

There's a big difference between the definition of conservative in the dictionary and the politics of a conservative. I'm probably one of the people frosti is talking about. Most of my experiences relate to sex (making me a pervert according to frosti) and I chose conservative under politics. Actually I would label myself as a libertarian but that wasn't an option in EP and when it comes to politics I'm certainly no liberal thus my choice of conservative. To me it's simple, I identify more with conservatives because the majority of them tend to view government as a necessary evil whereas most liberals view government as just necessary. <br />
<br />
Unfortunately "conservative" politics has also gotten tied together with the religious right and that is a part of the republican party I have problems with. <br />
<br />
Anyway, I'm waving my pervert flag in Frosti's face and since it's only virtual I won't be arrested for it!

i've wondered and been surprised by this too. i guess being liberal doesn't mean in every aspect of their lives.

Full disclosure - I'm conservative politically. But it seems like some of you don't understand what that means. It doesn't mean you are uptight & judgmental; far from it really.<br />
<br />
The fundamental concept of conservatism is individual liberty. This is the belief that individuals have the right to do as they wish, without interference from the government.<br />
<br />
There are always individuals with whom I disagree that are also conservative - but hey, people don't fit into neat little classifications.

"The fundamental concept of conservatism is individual liberty. This is the belief that individuals have the right to do as they wish, without interference from the government." You're describing libertarianism. Conservatism, traditionally at least, is about -economic- freedom but social and moral, well... conservatism, as in adherence to traditional values.

Yeah, like Jeff Gannon of White House Press Corps fame? LOL<br />
Studly male escort who throws softball ?? at GWB?

LOL very fitting, well maybe the gay conservative's will appreciate that...lol although i think that's an oxy moron. which is what this whole post is about. i guess i am kinda bitchy idk...LOL

How funny is it that this story, which is about the words "conservative" and "perverted" has an ad for "Sexy Gay Singles in your area" <br />
<br />

exactly vendetta thank u.

Once again my definition for words are pretty much the same as the dictionary's lol<br />
<br />
per⋅vert⋅ed<br />
   /pərˈvɜrtɪd/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [per-vur-tid] Show IPA<br />
–adjective<br />
1. Pathology. changed to or being of an unnatural or abnormal kind: a perverted interest in death.<br />
2. turned from what is right; wicked; misguided; distorted.<br />
3. affected with or caused by perversion.<br />
<br />
Main Entry: perverted<br />
Part of Speech: adjective<br />
Definition: immoral, evil<br />
Synonyms: abandoned, aberrant, abnormal, abused, contorted, corrupt, corrupted, debased, debauched, defiled, depraved, deviant, deviating, distorted, foreign, grotesque, impaired, kinky*, misguided, misused, monstrous, outraged, polluted, queer, sick, tainted, twisted, unhealthy, unnatural, vicious, vitiate, vitiated, warped, wicked

frosti - would I be correct in saying you aren't condemning people who are all about sex but that you just don't think it fits with the definition of conservative as you understand it?

ok well i guess i would have to put links to the profiles i came across to show, like i said i came across ****** and to me that is a perversion that is disgusting and def not conservative, also profiles that were mainly about sex and watching ppl have sex or somebody seeing you naked etc etc, profiles that didn't show any other side to that person but sex, that is perverted and does not in my opinion fit into someone that is conservative. pretty simple.

There's been a wonderful back-and-forth on the meaning of "conservative" here, but from the beginning everyone has ignored the term "perverted."<br />
<br />
I for one am very hesitant about labeling anyone "perverted" although I have, admittedly, totally NO sympathy for pedophiles. But the other "perversions" that might be listed here -- well, if they are between two or more consenting adults, what makes them perverted?

lmao i laughed at white bread also. I do ultimately think of a consevative as a republican but i realize that conservative's can have democratic views. but that definition is right on with what i see as the definition.

"redneck...unimaginative... white bread" LOL

i just wanted to add that i understand conservative can be a republican or democrat, but if you're conservative this it what it means to me....lol<br />
<br />
con⋅serv⋅a⋅tive<br />
   /kənˈsɜrvətɪv/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv] Show IPA<br />
–adjective<br />
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.<br />
2. cautiously moderate or purposefully low: a conservative estimate.<br />
3. traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.<br />
4. (often initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the Conservative party.<br />
5. (initial capital letter) of, pertaining to, or characteristic of Conservative Jews or Conservative Judaism.<br />
6. having the power or tendency to conserve; preservative.<br />
7. Mathematics. (of a vector or vector function) having curl equal to zero; irrotational; lamellar.<br />
–noun<br />
8. a person who is conservative in principles, actions, habits, etc.<br />
9. a supporter of conservative political policies.<br />
10. (initial capital letter) a member of a conservative political party, esp. the Conservative party in Great Britain.<br />
11. a preservative.<br />
<br />
Main Entry: conservative<br />
Part of Speech: adjective<br />
Definition: cautious, moderate, tending to preserve the status quo<br />
Synonyms: Tory, bourgeois, constant, controlled, conventional, die-hard, fearful, firm, fogyish, fuddy-duddy*, guarded, hard hat, hidebound, holding to, illiberal, in a rut, inflexible, middle-of-the-road*, not extreme, obstinate, old guard*, old line, orthodox, quiet, reactionary, redneck*, right, right of center, right-wing, sober, stable, steady, timid, traditional, traditionalistic, unchangeable, unchanging, uncreative, undaring, unimaginative, unprogressive, white bread

Griggles i already explained myself if you read all the posts from the beginning. I was just making an observation. Make of it what you will. Thanks Vendetta for pointing out the obvious for griggles, and ya maybe i did get a little hung up on the profiles i came across that were contradictory. I just want to say that i am not judging but the perverts i came across had proudly talked about ****** and all their experiences were about sex or being naked and like i said if you read the earlier posts you would see what i wrote. Like i said it was annoying to see those kinds of profiles and stories and then see thier political view as conservative. I also knew this would be a contraversal post so i felt like pushing a few buttons. ah ha.

LOL Third and Fourth words:<br />
<br />
Wide Stance Hahahaha<br />
<br />
Really, I don't understand those things either but who are we to say.........I think their conservative ideology might be more fiscal than anything. The only thing I hate about it is how they condemn people and those they condemn have the same traits as themselves.

She already explained what she meant by "conservative means conservative". When she looks at the profiles, under politics it says "Conservative" it doesn't say "conservative republican" or "conservative democrat". If anything she's not hung up on labels, she's hung up on EP profiles.

"Conservative means conservative"<br />
<br />
Circular definition. Define your terms, or admit you don't have a clue what you're talking about. You still haven't established what you consider to be a "perv", nor have you been able to do so without being judgemental or narrow-minded.

Im the last person hung up on labels. All i said is that the pervs on this site all labeled theirself conservative on the political status on our profile, and sorry but if you're conservative republican or democrat, conservative still means conservative and the profiles i saw were far from that.

Frosti, you seem to be quite uninformed about what "conservative" means. It CAN mean "republican, narrow minded, uptight, judgemental...etc etc..." but please look back at your own definition. Narrow minded? Check. Judgemental? Definitely. And what exactly does "perverted" mean, without being "judgemental"?<br />
<br />
The word "conservative" itself is fairly loaded. It depends, mainly, on what you're trying to conserve. Not all "conservatives" belong to the religious right. Many are "conservative" only in terms of governmental fiscal policy. Jimmy Carter was considered a "conservative" democrat -- not long ago, it was considered possible to be conservative or liberal as separate from republican or democrat.<br />
<br />
Many political conservatives spit on the republican party. I sure do.<br />
<br />
Others call Obama a "conservative" for his excessive militarism and promotion of the state. It's a valid naming, for one definition of the term.<br />
<br />
Don't get hung up on labels.

Hammerhead I doubt that any liberal or middle of the road person or anarchists feel the government should have the power to dictate our lives. Conservitive views actually want to be too involved in people's lives and have a more conservative view on things and strict type of parenting approach if you ask me, so i have seen plenty of profiles on here that just don't fit that view on things. I wonder why. My parents are major conservative and republican, and even though i don't share many of they're views they're lifestyle fits thier political views, i don't see how one's life can be opposite from their political views.

And where are they? I am quite surprised to go through the comments and saw no conservatives making any. <br />
<br />
As per previous observation, they are not exactly quiet.

no, it stands for republican, narrow minded, uptight, judgemental...etc etc...

Speechless - Thanks for admitting I'm wise! I already provided examples which illustrate my point. Do I need to produce more examples? If so, how many would be enough? <br><br />
<br><br />
It's worth noting that hidden sexual perversions do not belong to conservatives and Republicans, but that is not what I was saying. If you're gay and a democrat, you're like Barney Frank (openly gay). If you're gay and you're a Republican, you're like Larry Craig (in the closet...or is it bathroom stall?)

huh. opensoul may be right, but i still don't find that answer good enough.

mewold what? lol how is that?

It makes a lot of sense. Conservativeism IS preverted.

yes that's true ag123 this site is for healing but still how can their views be conservative with issues like that, they just can't so i say if you're gonna be honest on here with your life that maybe some people should rethink what their political views really are and what they really stand for. at least practice what you preach even if it is dead wrong.

I agree that is hypocrisy, but to actually pass laws against the very thing they suffer from just doesn't make sense. You would think they would be liberal's at the least. Maybe i shouldn't of used the word pervert but i saw some comments about ****** and other repulsing sexual stories that didn't seem like a healthy sexual relationship and then so many times the political views said conservative.<br />
<br />
I was like ya right. Why would somebody claim conservative on here and then air their dirty laundry that doesn't really match a conservative. I do have to say i don't usually stereotype people but this kind of behavior is far from conservative and what they really practice or believe. Like a conservative would most definitely be against gay marriage an abortion and that is why we have a name that generally fit our views, but i don't see how somebody can live one way and act like they believe in another. That makes no sense.

EP is a reflection of the offline world.

Often people who are perverts or sex addicts or have some other form of sexual shame (such as being gay) "become" conservative and Republican and religious in order to hide. They use it as a shield. When these people are political leaders, they will often be the ones who are most stridently passing laws against the very behaviors that they themselves suffer from. Look at Mark Foley or Larry Craig or Ted Haggard. <br />
<br />
Total hypocrisy and cowardice.

hmmm ya its hard to see how somebody openly obsessed with sex or sexual behavior could be conservative in political views. I noticed that last night and it was annoying.

Second word: denial

One word: repression.

lol......when i check out a page and all the experiences and goals are about sex and the pics are all nakey. then you scroll down and the political status says conservative...and its like i don't see how.