A Women’s Guide to Peeing In Urinals
Posted December 12th, 2008 at 4:31PM
Maybe RopinTexan has never dampened his pants waiting in line to use a crowded restroom. I doubt he’s ever even had to worry about this. 
But you know the situation. Because of anatomy and clothing, it takes longer for women to take a pee than it does for the hosers – I mean, guys.
Just look at the way they design public restrooms. They make men’s and women’s the same sizes, and then put urinals in the men’s room, so that the men’s room actually accommodates more users. It also just takes longer to get in and out of a stall, even for a man who’s just going in to pee.
Then the men wonder why there’s always a line at the ladies’ room, and think it’s because we spend so much time gossiping and primping. Hah! 
So, in response to RopinTexan’s misguided and misogynist rant, here is the Women’s Guide to Peeing in the Men’s Room, based on personal experience, consultation with other women, and after using my husband for additional research and scouting.
1. Never ask permission. Your only credentials for admission to the men’s room are a line at the ladies’ and a bladder in need of relief. This is a basic human right.
2. No shame! 
You have just as much right to bladder relief as a man!
3. Use the stalls first. There are usually some available. It’s more private for you. And it cause less embarrassment, less confusion, and less excitement for the poor hombres, who are not so good at coping with unusual situations or challenge to their privilege.
4. No woman is going to walk into a men’s room and use a urinal unless a) she’s totally desperate and about to pee her pants; b) she’s drunk; c) she’s daring and taken a bet; or d) some combination of the above. So it is important to be mission-driven and not be distracted. Your mission is to put your pee in the porcelain and get out with a minimum of hassle. Go directly to the urinal - do not feed the animals, do not debate gender equity, do not even make eye contact if you can avoid it. Keep your eyes on the prize.
5. BE PREPARED. You’ve got 400 other things in your purse. Why not an aid for emergency urination? 
Creative minds have developed the P-Mate (http://www.p-mate.com/eng/product.html), the Urinelle (http://www.urinelle.biz/html/en/About.shtml), even the Shenis (http://shenis.com, also many You Tube videos available). A sturdy sheet of paper rolled into a cone or an empy Marlboro box with the top and bottom torn off can serve in a pinch. But do not try any of these for the first time in field conditions and expect them to work perfectly... 
6. Of course, desperation and/or drunkenness make equipment problematic. And you usually won’t have one anyway. So we strongly recommend practice ahead of time. You will need to learn whether or not you’re capable of pulling off the...
7. Stand Up, Take Aim, and Let ‘Er Fly method (http://web.archive.org/web/20040213142128/www.restrooms.org/standing.html); or the...
8. ‘Mon Back method - back up and bend over. Your anatomy and your practice in the shower, at the toilet, or in the back yard will determine what works best for you.
9. Whatever you do, don’t let your tender parts touch the porcelain! Best case - it’s cold and clammy. Worse case - it’s cold and wet. Even worse case - warm and wet. 
Yuck!
10. Do say “Thank you, guys” when finished. Most guys are willing to act like gentlemen when treated that way. It’s optional whether or not you wash up - but it depends only on how quickly you want to make your exit.
And here's a bonus tip - enjoy the sweet feeling of restroom freedom! 
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LOL!!! ROTFL!!! You go girl!
Another blow for potty parity! :) -
Aren't there stalls in the women's room where there are urinals in the men's? I mean, if the men's room has four stalls and four urinals, aren't there eight stalls in the women's?
I guess it still takes longer just because y'all have to open/close the door, pull your pants up/down, wipe, etc.; but still... -
Y'all should visit a women's room. Take a native guide if you need to.
But your example shows you haven't paid much attention to even the men's rooms you presumably use. In the lateral space for four stalls, you can fit way mpore than four urinals. Just count the next time you're in a public restroom.
Even better, take your tape measure into your old familiar men's room. Measure the dimensions of a toilet stall. And measure the dimensions of a urinal "stall," from the outside of one partition to the inside of the next, and then from the wall to the butt cheeks of the guy standing at the urinal. I'm guessing you can fit a urinal plus its user into 2' x 2' or less. I'm guessing a non-handicapped stall is closer to 4' wide by 5' deep. Stalls also need as least as much aisle space as do urinals.
You can put exactly zero stalls in the space used for a urinal.
In order to actually acheive parity only in the number of fixtures, you need much more than twice the space for stalls as for a combination of stalls and urinals.
This is before you even consider the fact that it takes longer to:
a) Get into and out of a stall than step up to and away from a urinal (true of male and female like);
b) Drop your drawers and sit down than open your fly and whip it out (also a gender-neutral issue); and
c) Cope with women's clothing issues (hanging up your purse, keeping skirts/dresses out of the way, pantyhose, or God forbid, bodysuits or leotards).
I can't imagine that having a Y chromosome prevents one from thinking and peeing at the same time. ;) -
A long time ago, when I was young and innocent, I went to a rock festival in England. It was a long walk from the train station which had been a long ride from London. Seems like everybody felt they should pee before beginning the walk. Given the restroom math described above, it wasn't long before there was a much longer line at the women's than the men's bathrooms. As I stepped up to the urinal, I heard women's voices much closer to me than I would have expected. Sure enough, a group of women felt that it was reasonable to use the men's. It was a shock to me, but in no time at all, I thought how great it was. I didn't see anything or show anything, but it felt nice in way that I wouldn't have expected. Since that day, I have felt that common restrooms would be nice, though I can imagine potential problems. In any case, gals, you'll always be welcome (and left alone) where I pee.
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I'm glad SOME guys are accomodating!! This IS a real problem and I dont know how many times Ive peed my pants or apnteis wating in line. On a dare one time, i used a urinal, no one around but the dare-ee. It did not go so well, I pulled my panties aside and stood there and peed. Well, I missed haf the time, got my panties and pants wet, but did the dare! Now, after practicing, I will either go in and if alone, pull my panties down or just aside (aside is better incase someone comes in) and pee. NOW I can make it almost like a guy) Or, if any guys are there, and I really am desperate, I jsut turn around, squat over the urinal, sometimes basically sit on it, and pee thru my panties (skirt required for this!). There is NO WAY I will give someone a fre show like that. They look at me funny, but hey, I did not pee myself infront of everyone, AND I don't hafta pee anymore!! With pants on, well, lets just say I wear a skirt alot, lol. Pants, well, still might need to have an accident rather that totally humiliate myself. If done right, you can hide an accident, better than hide your *** pulling your pants down infront of everyone.
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Love the guide, I can see where the practice would come in handy.
Mayrep, I think I like your idea, back up, lifting skirt and just go quickly through my panty. Um, I like that idea a lot, (blush) My mother taught me to squat and pull my panties aside when I was little. I did what she told me to do while she was watching, then when she looked away I put my panty crotch back where it belonged and finished peeing that way. Something about exposing my self that way, even with a skirt to hide beneath, I didn't like it. -
wow, you seem prepared. how many times have u used a urinal or one of those female devises?
I still like to be prepared, wearing a skirt, so an accident can be hidden if it happens, or easy access to a urinal. A simple stratttle forward or backward can work. Panties get a bit wet, but no one has to know anything if u got a skirt on, and not much different that an accident anyway, this way everything should end up in the urinal.
I dare other girls to try it! lol
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RopinTexan takes a violent approach to the men's room usage. He has articulated so-called "rules" that represent no practical use for most men. He doesn't seem to understand the men and certainly not the women.
I would enjoy a more serious discussion on women using urinals and solving the problems of the woman's room. If brentwood, mayrep, and Rachael74 would be kind enough to drop me a message, as I can't message you because I don't have the tokens, I would appreciate asking you some questions. -
GREAT ARTICLE!!! I especially liked items 6, 8, & 10. ....and practice practice practice. Gotta think that the practicing is half the fun.
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Where I come from, it is not uncommon for women to use the cubicles in men's toilets when the crowds, and queues are big. No big deal - the men use the urinals and the girls duck into the cubicles - I've see it happe a few times. Mostly tho', those unisex porta-loos come into use. The downside for girls is that the men's toilets are usually gross!
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This story rocks. Though I wouldn't mind you having an accident in front of me in the hallway, I'd prefer to have you join me at the urinals. And not just because it's sexy, i do understand the math. You are right about the design problems and men's rooms should be smaller than the ladies. Parity in usefulness is the only fair way. Till then, come on it. You are welcome.
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The Japanese may have found the answer. They have co-ed rest rooms and rarely have lines. It saves money since only one rest room needs to be built and maintained. They also have these rest rooms along side walks. In the event you need to utilize the facility, it's virtually a "walk thru". It really does make sense.
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if it was women who laid every brick I ever tread upon, erected every wall that ever sheltered me, and had the thoughtfulness to construct for me a private place to pee, I don't think I would have the balls to ***** about it.
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jhewitt, all I can say to you is ugh-ugh...
bentwood, this is an awesome guide. My ex-fiance use to stand behind and support me to pee. I normally use a wheelchair for mobility. It took practice but now I can arc like a man. :) -
Go for it! I am all for both sex toilets. It would be such fun peeing together! Might make more friends too.
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I just read this article for a second time and no one has mentioned the stalls in a men's room. Often the urinals are all in use and the stalls are vacant. If a lady in any restroom I'm in wants to use a stall I'd be the first one to open the door for her and then close it to give her privacy. I know some areas where the men are encourage to use the men's room first during a break because the second half of the break it is used as a ladies room...whether the ladies use any of the urinals or not, I'll never know; but now that I've read this story, again, Brentwood, I suspect they do...and good for them.
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Whoops, just read the comments again and noticed that the stalls were mentioned several times, including the main article. Thinking about it some more, if we did build just one restroom it could be configured for both men and women and could be larger since it would only need one door and have less wall space. I really agree with Otinlb, jut above my above comment, single restrooms could lead to makeing more freinds and perhaps more politeness in the restroom. I think men and boys are on their better behavior when girls and women are around.
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Women can learn to use the men's toilets! Apparently there's a site that teaches women how to pee standing, including using the urinals http://www.stand2pee.com
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I got their video when a (platonic) female friend expressed an interest in learning how to do this. It's pretty good, if oversimplified in places. Well worth it if you're starting from "clueless", but if you've had a lot of practice then it may be a waste of money, unless you want to give classes! -
I too think that we should have one coed restroom for both men and wome to use.
There are many women out there that can pee standing and should be able to use urinals if they desire. I am one of them and I use the urinals in the men's restroom where I work all the time. Women are just as capable as men when it comes to standing to pee. All I have to do is unzip and aim just like men do. -
You're kind of lucky, not all women can master the technique. Well okay, most can get the stream to go forwards, but far fewer can manage the sharp cut-off at the end that's required to avoid dribbling.
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I am glad for this discussion and would welcome women using the men's room when there is a line. But to me, the issue is equality. I wonder how many of the women who use the men's room, would welcome men using the women's room?
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As the family carer of my wheelchair using wife, I do periodically end up in the women's room assisting her. Never had any serious objections, though feels uncomfortable waiting outside stall for her! -
I agree with you on the whole "space vs. utility" debate - the Ladies' needs to be at least twice as big as the Gents'. It seems architects across the world are unaware of this simple fact.
One thing I am curious about: who is this Ropin Texan and where is his rant? -
Never mind, I found him. Just another cowardly misogynist.
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Unisex restrooms with all stalls!
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Wah wah stfu it doesn't take that long to use a stall vs. urinal. Why should you come walk in our bathroom just because u had to go pee. I would put money on it that if I walked into a females bathroom right now girls would flip. And half the Tim the guys room is smaller.
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Ewwww! OMG, u filthy ****** are disgusting!
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